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Erections [Feb. 8th, 2009|11:47 pm]
שירן shiranne シラーン 冉施安
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Elections are on Tuesday! And I am still undecided! Shit!

Okay here's the dealio. Israelis are turning fascister and fascister by the day and are voting for dudes like Avigdor Lieberman (he wants to kick out all the Arab-Israelis who already have Israeli citizenship). But Bibi Netanyahu (who has already proven himself to be a crappy prime minister the last time he had the job) is the guy most likely to win the election as of right now. His biggest opposition is Tzipi Livni, chick who is Minister of Foreign Affairs and is head of the Kadima party, which is full of corrupt politicians I don't like.

Now the only real reason it's a close call and Netanyahu isn't winning by a landslide is that super right wing people are so sure he's going to win that they're happily voting for Lieberman and other extremist rightist parties. Whatever coalition government Netanyahu builds is going to be aggressive, more likely to create wars and (my favorite!) humanitarian crises, and push away any possibilities of peace, or of getting Gilad Schalit back (soldier who was kidnapped by Hamas in 2006). The only sure-fire way to stop a right wing government is if Tzipi Livni wins.

So that's where my dilemma comes in. Originally I was going to vote for the Green Movement - Meimad, who pretty much embody every single thing I ever wanted for the state of Israel in terms of social, economic, and religious issues, and that's hard to find in a party. The only problem is that these guys more likely than not aren't going to pass the election threshold. So what do I do? Small parties have surprised everyone in the past, passing the election threshold when nobody expected it, and election polls in Israel do have a tendency to be very bad. But is it a risk I'm willing to take? What's more important, voting for the party I believe in, or voting for the prime minister I want? (Interestingly enough, for a short while the system in Israel did allow for two votes, one for prime minister and one for the party of your choice, but alas, things change.) Should I vote for an entirely different leftist liberal party that will pass the election threshold but won't help Tzipi win? (My least favorite choice.)

Your thoughts, please.

[User Picture]From: jeffreyatw
2009-02-08 10:30 pm (UTC)
All politicians are corrupt, vote Livni
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[User Picture]From: rabid_bookwyrm
2009-02-08 10:58 pm (UTC)
I don't know anything about Israel's politics and even less about how votes are counted, etc, but I'd say it's a balance:

If Netanyahu wins, how bad will it be? Really bad.
If Livni wins, how bad will it be? Meh.
If Meimad wins, how bad will it be? Great!

And then, how likely are they to win:
Netanyahu - pretty likely.
Livni - less likely
Meimad - not all that likely.

So, the most-likely-not-horrible situation is Livni winning. However, it sounds like maybe the vote for the party is not just for the PM but also seats in the congress or parliament? In which case... I don't know. Probably still Livni is better, I guess.
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[User Picture]From: ljofthatfellow
2009-02-09 08:04 am (UTC)
Here's what I figure: If you're pretty comfortable that someone OK will win, vote for the unlikely candidate, to give them their due boost. If there's a bothersome amount of uncertainty, put your vote towards securing the best realistic thing, in this case the OK party. Vote Livni, but be vocal about the Green Movement ideals! Don't give Lieberman types any chance for leverage, take the opening.
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[User Picture]From: cheesechimp
2009-02-11 07:15 am (UTC)
I guess you've already voted then, because there's only an hour of Tuesday left here in California, so Tuesday is over there, right? If you feel comfortable discussing it, what did you choose? You know, I hate how the American bipartisan system works, but I still prefer it to the idea of voting for the party rather than the individual. I guess it only makes sense to do it that way to get proportional representation in a multiparty system, but I don't really like the idea of the voters not really choosing the politicians.
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[User Picture]From: gogalucky
2009-02-11 10:58 am (UTC)
I voted for the Green Movement - Meimad and although they didn't pass the election threshold, I do not regret my decision to vote for them.
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[User Picture]From: ljofthatfellow
2009-02-12 02:18 am (UTC)
When you only get one erection every four years, it'd better be for someone you want.
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[User Picture]From: gogalucky
2009-02-12 05:44 am (UTC)
oh very nice!
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